Can something positive emerge from this horrific slaughter?
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Richard Kuper
JVL Introduction
Despite the horrific slaughter of the past four weeks, Middle East analyst Tony Klug find room for cautious optimism that something positive may yet emerge from all this.
And he believes that a revised Arab peace initiative (the agreement reached at the Arab League summit in Beirut in 2002) could provide the blueprint.
This article was originally published by the Guardian on Fri 3 Nov 2023. Read the original here.
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Whilst I admire Tony Klug’s work, I think he is kidding himself if he thinks the two-state solution is sustainable. As long as Israel remains a Jewish state, Zionism will not allow an independent Palestine on its borders. The sixteen year siege of Gaza has shown us that. The one state solution, where Jews and Arabs live equally together in a democratic, secular state, is the only solution. Palestinian liberation is inextricably linked to Israeli liberation. Sound utopian? It’s no more utopian than the two state solution. For either to work, Arabs must accept that Israeli Jews are there to stay, and Jews must accept Arabs as equals. Jews and Arabs lived peacefully together for two thousand years. It’s time they did so again. Let’s hope Tony Klug is right, that out of darkness light will come. I have my doubts. I fear that the cause of Palestine has been set back significantly in Israel, where it matters most. Palestinians and Israelis, who believe in mutual liberation, will now find it very difficult to find the space to work together. Hamas has made sure of that.
Peace conference with World leaders in Gaza…now?
If only…..
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No point unless it secures the complete removal of all the settlements and the poisonous Zionist cancer in the heart of Hebron. I can’t see any likely Israeli government accepting that, which would be political suicide.
A problem is that peace talks in the past save allowed Israelis to deliberate and in the meantime continue their landgrabs. There must be first an immediate end to the occupation, second a process of decolonisation, third a regime change- nothing is going anywhere for anyone with a Zionist idealogy driving governance- and fourth a working towards a one state solution wih equal rights for all it’s citizens.
Mike K, settlements have gotta go but what a hateful comment about “Zionist cancer in Hebron” and I suppose you’ll declare yourself not an antisemite. Learn a bit of history about the forerunners of the Hamas terrorists of 7 Oct and the massacre of Jews that they carried out on the Jews of Hevron.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/02/massacre-marred-birth-israel-independence
Last night, in Tel Aviv, crowds surrounded Netanyahu’s home, demanding he resign – calling him a murderer. They were Israeli Jews.
Videos are starting to emerge, showing how Israeli Arabs, and Israeli Jews(kibbutzniks) worked together to save each other, during the horrific attacks, on the 07 Oct 23.
People have started to recover from those attacks, and talk about them, relating their experience – Arab and Jew.
It’s a beginning. If government censors allow it, the truth will come out. We can progress from there.
I refuse to believe ordinary Arabs, ordinary Israelis, don’t want peace. Hopefully, leaders will emerge to guide them – just, as leaders emerged in N. Ireland.
Not Netanyahu. Not Ben-Gvir, nor Smotrich. Their time is over.
Now, is the time for Mustafa Barghouti, Gideon Levy, Nour Odeh, Raz Segal, etc, etc. There are many young Arabs and Israelis working together, for peace, already.
Any involvement from the US, or wider Arab world, would have to be carefully chosen.
It’s all too easy to be pessimistic during this unfolding catastrophe. A video I watched, this morning, shows a glint of optimism, of hope.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1720905755371405633
Ceasefire now! Free the Hostages – all the Hostages!
I agree with Brian. I think a one state solution is now on the cards. The current slaughter of Palestinians has awoken the entire world as never before to the plight of Palestinians under the Israeli regime. Pro-Palestinian demonstrations are occurring around the world, several here in the UK. I think the Israeli government has over reached itself. It now just requires a change of heart and mind by the major powers to bring about the necessary radical change. It seemed the apartheid regime in South Africa would never be broken – but in the end it was.
The only solution is a complete dismantling of the Israeli apartheid State and replacing it with a fully democratic Palestine.
The Zionists will obviously be dragged kicking and screaming to accept this solution but they must be marginalised and not allowed to stand in the way of a just solution.
Jaye, I took your advice to learn a bit about history. The Wikipedia entry describes the attack as a continuation of the attacks which took place during the Zionist colonisation of Palestine. Apparently the Arabs who carried out the attack, saw it as retribution for the massacre by Zionists of the villagers of Deir Yassin. Prior to the colonisation, Jews and Arabs had lived peacefully together, even attanding each others weddings. Context is everything.