Who really killed the Bibas babies?
JVL Introduction
Jonathan Ofir carefully examines the evidence that Israel has used to claim that Hamas murdered the Bibas babies. He finds there is little and none that stands up to even the most cursory scrutiny. This has not stopped the Israeli government making incendiary claims; claims that have been gleefully echoed and amplified by a global coalition of genocide enthusiasts and uncritically repeated across western media.
The Israeli claims rest on a single statement by an Israeli forensic scientist who did not even say that Hamas committed the murder but merely said, with no supporting information provided, that, “There is no evidence of harm due to bombing,”. Dr Kugel’s scientific impartiality is severely compromised by his assertion that, “We have encountered abysses of evil and malice that we could not imagine existed”. If there were clear evidence of murder then surely the Israelis would have had no hesitation in encouraging outside experts to confirm their findings. Their reluctance speaks far louder than their ‘evidence’.
It has been correctly pointed out that Ariel and Kfir and their mother would not have died if they had not been abducted and there can be no excuse for holding babies hostage. This act was serious enough in its own right. It is typical of Israeli hasbara to deliberately embellish any incident into the realm of gross falsehood to whip up emotion to inflame support for their own criminal actions.
MC
This article was originally published by Mondoweiss on Sun 23 Feb 2025. Read the original here.
There is no evidence Hamas killed members of the Bibas family. Israel is using their death to manufacture consent for genocide.
Israel claims Hamas killed two children in the Bibas family but has not offered any evidence. Their death has become another piece of atrocity propaganda Israel is using to justify genocide in Gaza.
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The answer to the question – will anyone in the (mainstream) media stand up? Almost certainly not.
Thank for the article and JVL.
Whatever the proven to be mass killing State of Israel claims without evidence is presented as if fact by our extreme zionism favouring mainstream media.
What I can’t understand is why Israel refused when Hamas offered to return the bodies/remains of the mother and her two young children back in 2023. I mean what exactly was this Hamas propaganda that Israel referred to, and whatever it was, why would THAT be any reason not to accept Hamas’ offer of returning the bodies/remains. It doesn’t make sense and seems totally illogical. Or were BN and his fascist buddies looking way ahead…!
It is of course totally absurd that Hamas would have any reason to kill them, but BN and his buddies know that hundreds of millions of people still believe that Hamas beheaded forty babies etc, precisely because the Western MSM in general have completely blanked the fact that only one baby was killed (and accidentally) on October 7th – ie 10-month old Mila Cohen – which has been in the public domain since around the end of November, 2023. But if these hundreds of millions of people believe Hamas is capable of such atrocities, then they will of course believe that they are capable of murdering and strangling to death a mother and her two young boys, and then mutilating them.
Needless to say, they were all blown to smithereens by one of the thousands of 2,000lb bombs the Israeli Airforce dropped on Gaza in the first month or two (and continued to do), and it’s precisely for this reason that Hagari says “they killed them with their bare hands.” AND that “Afterwards, they committed horrific acts to cover up these atrocities.”
I just hope Hamas had the foresight to photograph the remains before returning them, although the MSM would just blank it completely of course if they did. And BN and Co know it!
This non-story of the Bibas family is very much akin to the blatant lies during and directly after the October 7th Palestinian uprising, about babies fried in ovens and horror-stories of mass-rape and mass killing by Hamas.
These lies, while the biggest contribution to the killing, had notably been accomplished, by the cynical execution of the Hannibal-doctrine by the IDF, killing many festival goers by nonstop, heavy firing from helicopter gunships into the crowd of cars and running peoples, and firing equally cynically with heavy tank grenades on “suspected” houses in a variety of Kibbutzim.
Do not forget that the racist and fascist Netanyahu regime has to keep up the flames of hatred against “the barbaric Arabs” burning, in order to complete their 100 plus year old geo-political mission of founding a mono-ethnic Jewish state on other people’s territory.
Btw, Months ago , I already did foretell that most of the so-called moderate Jewish Zionists – from every realms of “the Diaspora” – that originally had expressed their sheer horror and unconditional disgust about the mass-killings of Palestinians by the IDF in Gaza (to be continued in the West-Bank as we speak) in the very near future, will collectively celebrate Netanyahu as The Great Liberator of “The divinely promised Land of Israel”.
The relentless cleansing of the Palestinian (!) territory will be resumed, as soon as “all the hostages have been released”, as the magnificent Mondoweiss article does rightfully suggest by citing the Chomsky book title : The manufacturing of consent.
The Israeli government knows all too well that the most grandiose allegations will be picked up by an obliging western media. When sometime later a story from an independent source surfaces that casts doubt on the original claims, it will be relegated to the margins by the mainstream media if reported at all.
I recently read that the relatives of the Bibas family demanded that the government stop using their tragedy for political gain.
Ever since Oct 7th, I kept thinking about the Bibas boys, hoping that the mindless bombardments of Israel would not harm them.
My heart is heavy with pain and shame for all the children who died and keep dying because of Israel’s ongoing genocide. Their fate was sealed and justified through a hateful ideology that keeps selling the illusion of a promised home to a scattered and long and hard-tried nation on the land of another nation they deem disposable.
The author claims that there is no evidence to suggest that Hamas killed the mother and her babies; however, he has not presented any contradicting evidence or evidence of any kind. According to the statements from the Israeli forensic team, they found evidence that the bodies were mutilated to cover up the cause of death. Even if the author is correct in asserting that Hamas was not responsible, the victims were likely killed in Gaza by another jihadist group. Therefore, the claims made in this article appear to be unfounded.
There are claims by the Israeli forensic team but they do not constitutive reliable evidence as they have not been independently corroborated.
Just came across this wikipedia entry, which I’ve not seen before:
Hamas baby beheading hoax
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_baby_beheading_hoax
I want to reply directly to Mike’s comment about Cushman, but there’s no way to do that.
I come here to gain a different perspective from what is published in the mainstream media, but all this site offers is conspiracy theories and the same disinformation, just from the opposite end of the spectrum, without any evidence.
Dan: evidence other than ‘evidence’ supplied by Israel is hard to come by since Israel denies entry to Gaza by journalists. You must surely know this.