David Baddiel called out
JVL Introduction
Rivkah Brown, writing in Vashti’s online newsletter The Pickle, is sharp in her critique of David Baddiel’s Channel 4 programme Jews Don’t Count.
Following what Arielle Angel describes in Jewish Currents as “a politics of injury”, Brown is rightly wary of an antiracism that starts from personal injury not wider social injustice.
“Far from being a useful tool to understand or resist antisemitism,” she argues, “the idea that ‘Jews don’t count’ serves only to breed paranoia among Jewish people and resentment among everyone else.
It ends, she believes, with a flattening of racist incidents, so Baddiel does little to “differentiate between people pestering him on Twitter and the siege of a Texas synagogue” or Jason Lee’s decades of racist abuse on and off the pitch – including by Baddiel himself – with his own experience of once being called a ‘f****** Jew’ at a Chelsea match…
Thanks to Vashti for permission to repost.
Rivkah Brown writes
Spare a thought this week for David Baddiel. On Monday, hours before his Channel 4 special Jews Don’t Count was due to air, the Times published an interview with someone the comedian would probably rather forget. That person is Nottingham Forest striker Jason Lee, a man whom, on multiple occasions on his 1990s show Fantasy Football League, Baddiel blacked up to impersonate.
Speaking to the paper, Lee said he had been “violated” by Baddiel’s impersonation, which he described as “a whole new layer of abuse” – quite a remark from someone who’s worked in one of the most visibly racist industries in the world. So mortified were Lee and his family by Baddiel’s caricature, which drew particular attention to the footballer’s dreadlocks (Lee had kept them, despite knowing the abuse they would invite), that his daughter later shaved them off.
It took 25 years for Baddiel to apologise – I’m sure the timing with his new TV show was purely coincidental. Millions of viewers tuned in to watch Baddiel’s apology on Monday; one person who didn’t is Lee’s mother, who died before she could hear her son’s tormentor apologise.
The cruelty with which Baddiel has treated Lee, his family and all Black people who see themselves in Baddiel’s caricature is not solely the product of his incurable narcissism and morally inoculated celebrity. Rather, it extends from a mode of thinking that informs Baddiel’s show and bestselling book of the same name, which is that, rather than being collectively responsible for one another’s oppression, it’s each minority for itself – a competitive anti-racism that justifies, even necessitates, self-centring, paranoia and callousness.
The very fact that Baddiel’s star has continued to rise, that he has successfully managed to transition from comedy performer to anti-semitism expert, despite his decades-long refusal to apologise to Lee would suggest it isn’t Jews – or it isn’t just Jews – who don’t count. As I argue in this week’s Pickle, those who claim negative exceptionalism for Jews – in progressive circles or indeed anywhere – show a striking ignorance of the experience of other minorities. As Black Jew Stephen Bush writes in his Times review of Baddiel’s book, the notion that “progressives turn a blind eye to and dabble in just one form of racism [would] struggle to survive a conversation with more than three people from any other minority”.
Baddiel has just one conversation with someone from another minority in Jews Don’t Count – and this, as you’ll see, is a car crash▼
Rivkah Brown
Editor-in-Chief
Competitive anti-racism
“Relentlessly irrefutable” said the Times. “Viewers were left in tears,” the Mail announced. “A doc so shocking it sounds like a siren” was the Guardian’s verdict.
As a glittering stream of reviews rolled in for Jews Don’t Count, cementing its presenter David Baddiel’s place in the pantheon of antisemitism pop scholarship (his book of the same name is already canonical, having been published only last year), I found myself returning to one particular scene in the documentary, which aired on Monday on Channel 4. In it, Baddiel interviews his niece Dionna. Dionna is a Black Jew.
“It’s interesting for me as a biracial person,” she tells her uncle. “I can’t hide the fact that I’m Black; my Dad can hide the fact that he’s Jewish. In America, if my Mom gets stopped by the cops in her car, I’m a little more worried than I am if my Dad [does].”
What follows is a spectacularly awkward exchange. Instead of accepting what his niece is telling him, what she knows from her own experience to be true – that anti-Blackness and antisemitism have very different material consequences in modern-day America – Baddiel refutes Dionna’s implication that Jews like him benefit from racial passing. “Actually,” he tells her, “a lot of Jews had to change their names, in showbiz but also just in life, to get jobs early on. There are whole websites now dedicated to […] unearthing Jews, right? Because the racists think, ‘Yeah, Jews are passing, and we need to stop them passing. Do you see what I’m saying?’” Visibly stunned, Dionna says something about how “hateful” people can be, and the interview ends abruptly. One wonders whether she might have been a little affronted by the comparison.
The scene typifies an understanding of antisemitism that has become increasingly widespread. Its central thesis is that people – progressives in particular – deem antisemitism a “lesser racism”. The idea is commonly expressed in claims that “no other minority would be treated in this way” – or, more catchily, that Jews don’t count. It is an understanding symptomatic of what Arielle Angel describes in Jewish Currents as a “politics of grievance”. Here, the starting point of one’s politics is not wider social injustice but personal injury. This development is rooted, Angel argues, both in a particular Jewish history and in a more widespread “identitarian enshrinement of suffering” that incentivises identity groups to competitively perform their oppression and so to ignore or undermine others’.
It is also demonstrably untrue.
Take the Labour party, supposed ground zero of Jews not counting. Keir Starmer is currently subjecting Britain’s only hijabi MP to a trigger ballot run by friends of her abusive ex-husband, despite warnings from domestic violence charities. Labour staffers described Diane Abbott as “hideous”, “truly repulsive” and “literally mak[ing] me sick”. Rosie Duffield refuses to use trans people’s preferred pronouns. Those who claim negative exceptionalism for Jews on the left betray a striking ignorance of other minorities. In so doing, they breed resentment among those who feel their own marginalisation just as sharply as we do ours. Far from being a useful tool to understand or resist antisemitism, then, the idea that “Jews don’t count” serves only to breed paranoia among Jewish people and resentment among everyone else.
By the logic of “Jews don’t count”, the solution to the perceived hierarchy of racism is to flatten it, resulting in uncomfortable equivalencies. Your Black mother can’t pass to a police officer? Baddiel asks Dionna. Well, I can’t pass to online trolls. “We have experienced something similar,” Baddiel tells Jason Lee, the ex-Premier League player he blacked up to impersonate on his 1990s show Fantasy Football League, “which is being well-known […] and then having an ethnic identity suddenly means that people can use it against you.” Here Baddiel appears to be comparing Lee’s decades of racist abuse on and off the pitch – including by Baddiel himself – with his own experience of once being called a “f****** Jew” at a Chelsea match.
In this understanding, gaining recognition for anti-semitism requires collapsing racism into a set of fungible tokens to be compared and traded on the marketplace of oppression, rather than a complex system of social domination whose effects vary dramatically over time and space. The only way to combat antisemitism, indeed any racism, is to understand it not as some isolated hatred, but to situate it within a matrix of interlocking oppressions whose expressions are different but whose benefactors are largely the same. This work requires, first and foremost, a genuine curiosity about the experiences of others, and the humility to recognise that we may not be unique in our suffering, rather than a knee-jerk attempt to attract attention to ourselves.
In her book on antisemitism, the American columnist Bari Weiss compares antisemitism to a “thought virus,” an “intellectual disease,” an “ancient malady” and “a cancer”. “As such,” writes Judith Butler in her review of the book, “antisemitism seems to exist outside history, recurring in all possible spaces and times.” Similarly, Baddiel speaks of Jewish history as one of continuous “disempowerment”, without acknowledging its clear discontinuities. He remarks on “how frightened Jews remain” after the Holocaust – an empirically observable phenomenon – but provides no analysis of whether this fear remains justified. The result is a documentary that does little to differentiate between people pestering him on Twitter and the siege of a Texas synagogue (a juxtaposition reminiscent of the Scottish-American Jewish writer and Baddiel aficionado Eve Barlow’s description of her online abuse as a “social media pogrom”). When we understand oppression as an unbroken line, we undermine not only others’ experience of it, but our own.
As well as being culturally predisposed to platz (Yiddish for “stress the f*** out”) Jewish sensitivity to threat is actively encouraged by the anti-semitism industrial complex that comprises groups like the Community Security Trust in the UK and the Anti-Defamation League in the US. These hate-monitoring outfits have been accused of using dodgy methodologies that equalise online harassment and violent attacks, and as a consequence churn out misleading research that produces such bizarre claims as that antisemitism is at an “all-time high”. It’s easy to see the political uses of such inflammatory data collection – not least for a state that requires Jews’ sense of imperilment to justify occupation, blockade and apartheid.
Ultimately, anti-racism – a task that requires reflection and collaboration – isn’t a task best performed by a celebrity, someone rewarded for narcissism. Anti-racism isn’t a forum into which each group sends its mascot to clamour for recognition. It’s a form of politicised empathy generated by listening, by identifying common enemies out of particular experiences. It’s the kind of work done in pubs, not from podiums – and it doesn’t make very good TV.
Rivkah Brown is editor-in-chief of Vashti. This is an edited version of a piece first published by Novara Media, where Rivkah is a reporter and commissioning editor.

For a more devastating and comprehensive demolition of Baddiel’s racism see here
https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2022-11-24/david-baddiel-apology-jason-lee/
Clearly just about everything Baddiel says and writes about anti-Semitism and racism is done in bad faith.
Nonetheless some of the criticism of him and what he says is confused not least this suggestion that anti-Semitism is a ‘lesser racism.’ It is another way of exceptionalising Jews.
What distinguishes anti-Semitism from other forms of racism in Britain is remarkably simple. It isn’t a form of state racism but a prejudice. Open anti-Semites are confined to a fringe of the fascist movement.
Jews are not economically discriminated against. They are not visible (bar the Ultra Orthodox). There is no offence of driving whilst Jewish. The overwhelming preponderance of racist attacks are on Black and Muslim people.
If anti-Semitism was a form of state racism, as it was in the 1930s and 40s then would the Mail, Express etc. have participated with the rest of the right wing in using it as a method of attacking Corbyn and the left? It is precisely because of an absence of anti-Semitism that the right have adopted it as their false anti-racism.
The elephant in the room is Jewish racism The massive anti-Arab and anti-Muslim racism in the British Jewish community. We all know it. Things like you can’t trust an Arab are commonplace. Jews figure highly in racist think tanks like the Gatestone Institute and Henry Jackson Society.
We even had Lord Finkelstein of the Times calling out Corbyn’s ‘antisemitism’ for not having condemned the anti-Semitism of Hobson’s Imperialism, when it was irrelevant to the theme of the book, whilst being a speaker for and board member of the Gatestone Institute which does harbour anti-semites.
In other words Jews are White in this society. Also the belief that antisemitism was prioritised above other forms of anti-racism in the Labour Party is wrong. Whatever was prioritised it wasn’t the fight against antisemitism but anti-Zionism..
I didn’t watch the programme.
From what I’ve read, and from the video clips I’ve watched, I get the impression it was nothing more than an ego boost, for Baddiel, and his desire to be seen as a Jewish intellectual – an expert on antisemitism.
I would have paid more attention, had Baddiel sat down and had a serious discussion, about antisemitism, with another Jew who has been labelled ‘antisemitic’ because they don’t support Zionism.
That, at least, would have given him some credibility.
I was not aware from watching the programme that he did the impression more than once. That does change things quite significantly.
In turn we should continue to call out Rivkah Brown on her disgraceful tweet about Chris Williamson and indeed other Novara commentators for e.g. an attack on Jackie Walker and on failing to call out the fake antisemitism crisis when it mattered most.
Tony G of course makes the most sense. I can’t think of any racist behaviour against my Jewish family over decades bar the odd trope say about Jews liking money mainly at school and nothing at the same level as anti-traveller, anti-black/Asian, anti-gay and indeed anti-women stuff.
And it really is quite astonishing that the BBC not only allowed the blackface ridiculing of Jason Lee to happen in the first place, but allowed it to continue.
Anyway, I just checked out the wikipedia entry for Baddiel, and it says the following:
‘Lee said in 2020 that he had not received a direct apology from Baddiel or Skinner over the series of sketches[23] but in 2022 Baddiel met Lee to apologise in his Channel 4 documentary. In his 2021 book Jews Don’t Count, Baddiel said the use of blackface was racist but also wrote that many people asking for him to apologise for the performance only did so after he publicly spoke out against antisemitism.’
Oh, right, so I suppose it didn’t occur to Baddiel that if he’d written a book about gardening, or sailing, then it’s highly unlikely anyone would have been saying he should apologise to Jason Lee on account of writing a book on such a topic.
Talk about being disingenuous!
Apparently Baddiel cares not a jot about Israel, nothing to do with me Guv
Mirium Margolyse then pointed out, if your a member of the Jewish Community then you should
The broader point on here is all forms of Racism are our business
Bur then the AS Scam was never part of that fight
JC is the blue print if you are going to build a life long anti racist, not Frank Skinners talentless hanger on
I thought it was an alright documentary. There were some very likeable contributors: David Schwimmer, Miriam Margolyes, David Baddiel’s niece Dionnna, Jason Lee, Sarah Silverman. It’s a big complex topic and you can’t shoehorn every aspect into an hour. It wasn’t the definitive statement and I don’t think it purported to be the definitive statement. It was a decent-ish contribution to a wider discussion. Of course there were omissions, places he didn’t go – the Labour Party, notably. But how do you do justice to that tangled imbroglio when you’ve only got an hour and there are other points you want to make? Likewise Palestine was only lightly touched upon. But that’s a huge topic worthy of a ten part series. I used to be a TV producer so I have an inkling into the editorial decision making process. I don’t think Baddiel’s documentary deserved the ringing endorsement it received from the Guardian, which concludes: “It is an entertaining and educational polemic that should lead to the conversations Baddiel says aren’t happening, particularly among progressives.” Let’s hope it does. For example, Baddiel refers to anti-semitic tropes but surely to God no discussion of anti-semitic tropes should omit the biggest anti-semitic trope of all – Christianity. The Jews as Christ killers. “Let his blood be upon us and upon our children.” Now there’s a conversation which hasn’t happened much. I speak as a Christian by the way. The “progressive” Starmer never once condemned the Archbishop of Canterbury for promulgating the message of Jews as Christ killers. He focussed his condemnation on lesser examples of anti-semitic tropes, those likely to win approval from the contemporary Daily Mail – especially when used to discredit Jeremy Corbyn. I would have liked to have seen David Baddiel tackle the Archbishop of Canterbury on the 450 anti-semitic passages in the New Testament identified by Harvard’s Daniel Goldhagen. But I doubt the Daily Mail would have given him the thumbs up if he had. Baddiel also failed to apologise for his use of the term “p***y” to describe Travellers in a comedy sketch, surely in the same category as the Y and N words. And the documentary ended with a conversational exchange including the C-word used in a derogatory sense – a provocation to those who believe such usage is offensive to women. Maybe he just wanted to burnish his 90s New Lad credentials, which was a bit sad.
On second thoughts, it was a decent contribution to a wider discussion, not decent-ish. I don’t want to “damn with faint praise.”
Bàddiel came across as bad tempered and self important.
Surely “Semitic” is the race, and Arabs are Semitic also. Judaism is a religion. Please tell me if I have that wrong.
Reply to Janet Crossley: Yes, you do have that wrong. “Semite” is a C19 invented category to denote a group of languages spoken in the middle east. It has nothing to do with “race”, which is a scientifically meaningless category, except perhaps for the use of the term “human race”. Judaism may be a religion, but that term does not encompass all Jews, many of whom are not religious.
How can Jews be neither a religion or a “race”. The reason is because religious tradition and history (both Nazi and Israeli) have defined Jews by their family heritage. So, someone whose mother is/was Jewish is themselves Jewish even if they were not brought up in the religion or its culture. That can also extend to people some of whose grandparents are/were Jewish. That was enough to get then sent to the gas chambers,, to suffer attacks from contemporary fascists and is still enough to allow any Jew to emigrate to Israel. This is why so many non-religious, anti-zionist Jews feel it is their obligation to oppose Israel and its oppression of the Palestinians.
The term “antisemite” has been since the nineteenth century the term for anti-Jewish bigotry. This may be unfortunate, because of the previous use of the unscientific term “semite” but we just have to live with that. Some people still claim that Arabs are “semites” out of ignorance, but others use it entirely disingenuously, as a way of denying that antisemitism exists.
Fight anti semitism and zionism..doesn’t he realise zionism is inverted anti semitism and Jewish..sic.. fundamentalism and supremacy..a nasty form of rascism..love anti zionist Jews..fight anti semitism and zionism